host: what about paul ryan? stories coming out about his being quieter in the background, especially since the election. did he have any say in this or shaping of the policy? >> yes. paul ryan since he's come back to congress from the presidential trail has avoided taking questions and kind of kept his head down. but at this retreat he played a very important role in a couple ways. first of all, he was very active in leading discussions with the republicans when they were trying to decide what their strategy was, and he also came out and talked to reporters and kind of floated this idea of the short-term debt ceiling increase, and he was part of a group of five conservatives who blessed this deal on friday morning. jeb hencer ling of texas and steve of louisiana and jordan of ohio and ryan. so it remains to be seen whether that will be kind of a center of power going forward. host: as far as those five signing on to this deal, what's been talking about the members, especially on the republican side and -- will a